Ep. 85 – Throw Away Your TDL

Doreen: Hey, my beautiful friends, and how are you? So today we’re gonna talk about one of my favorite subjects. This is about your to-do list, especially how to organize your life to get a lot done, throwing away your to-do list, which will explain and how to really focus on what’s important for you after divorce.

So if you are ready. Let’s get started.

Are you ready to create a life that’s better than ever before? We are Doreen Yaffa and Jeff Wilson, and we are here to give you the strategies you need to create the life after divorce that you deserve and desire. As partners both in marriage and coaching, we use our expertise as well as our own personal experiences to help you make the next chapter of your life the best chapter.

Hey Jeff, how are you?

Jeff: Excellent. How are you doing today?

Doreen: I’m doing great.

Jeff: Wonderful.

Doreen: So we’re gonna talk about one of my favorite subjects, and you and I do this practice on a normal, what’s normal, right? I don’t know what’s normal.

Jeff: Regularly.

Doreen: On a regular basis. Yes. And I do mine on Sunday. And you do yours on?

Jeff: I like to do it on Sunday night. .

Doreen: And sometimes if we know we’re gonna be out of town, or we’re gonna be busy on Sunday, we might do it on Saturday, and sometimes we do this on Monday. So what do we do?

Jeff: As long as it gets done. And what are, are we talking about?

Doreen: Nobody has any idea what we’re talking about, but here, here’s what we’re talking about.

So even without all the stresses and all the extra responsibilities and things that you have to deal with surrounding the divorce and after the divorce, right? You still have businesses, you have your profession that you’re dealing with, and you’re trying to balance everything. You’re trying to balance your new life.

You’re trying to balance what that looks like. You’re trying to balance your work responsibilities.

Jeff: Personal life

Doreen: Growth of your business, your personal life. And that’s like exercise and social and alone time. Intent.

Jeff: I’ll leave after we’re done with this episode. Thank you.

Doreen: You go to the gym, I’m gonna chill.

Jeff: Okay.

Doreen: And there’s a lot to do and it’s very normal even without divorce, right? Just to feel overwhelmed.

Jeff: Absolutely.

Doreen: When you think about all the things you have to do. So we like to use this little system and it has worked really, really well for us. And basically, I’m gonna call it throwing away your to-do list.

Because to-do lists are really only a piece of paper in which you’ve put things you gotta do. Probably you have a lot of different things, meaning you have some business things you gotta attend to, you gotta stop at the store, you might have to do something with the kids. You got a lot of things on your to-do list, right?

But a lot of times that list, what happens to that list?

Jeff: For me it vanishes in the thin air. I don’t know where it goes .

Doreen: Well, for a lot of people, I think what happens with it is it just continues to be a list and it doesn’t get done. And when you look at the list, a lot of times what people will do is they’ll just start at the beginning of the list and they’ll start like cranking through it.

And then what happens at the end of the day, you know the answer?

Jeff: Nothing.

Doreen: You’re adding more things to your to-do list. So you ended up taking off certain things and you ended up putting other things on because it’s a never ending cycle. I just did a presentation for third year law students at Belmont University in Nashville, so nice to see students where I was seems like a million years ago. . A long time ago. And I, it was about ethics, it was an ethic, ethics advocacy class. But I also did a twist about being a business owner and an entrepreneur, and a mother of four and a wife, and trying to get my own personal health in mind and, you know, time for that and social.

And I said, listen, you have to have balance, right? So when you practice what we’re gonna teach you today, you get to put those things like the things like working out as an example into your calendar?

Jeff: Well, I like the way you put it when you said being ethical with yourself.

Doreen: Yeah. Well, I don’t know if I told the listeners today about this, but that was something I discussed with the students, you know, cuz we were talking about law and ethics.

Ethics and law. And I said, you know, one of the things that’s really important, and I think it’s important for our listeners and anyone as well, is your mental state. So in law, generally a lawyer must be competent. Right to represent. And part of the rule specifically says that your mental health, you’re emotionally stable.

Basically you don’t have any issues because in the field of law, like other fields and professions that y’all may be deal dealing with or involved in, there’s a lot of stress and some professions more stressful than others, and law happens to be one of those. So I encourage the students to really seek balance and to make sure that they incorporate into their calendars, their downtime, whatever that looks like for them. So hopefully they learn something.

Jeff: Yeah. Yeah.

Doreen: I always say if I knew then what I know, wait. If I knew then what I know now. Right?

Jeff: Everybody says that for I think in every practice.

Doreen: So what I wanna do is also refer you back to an episode that I did. It’s number 57. It’s called Time management. And there may be some overlap there, but it certainly wasn’t as enjoyable cuz I didn’t do it with Jeff.

Jeff: Well, I mean we, they say you don’t need to be told what to do, but we often need reminders.

Yes. So let this episode be a great reminder for 57. It has absolutely changed my life. So here’s what you do. You wanna take it from here?

Jeff: Well, I mean, let’s first talk about why people don’t want to talk about time management.

Doreen: Go ahead.

Jeff: I mean I think that you know, people think that they just can’t do anything about it, and they couldn’t be anymore wrong.

And I think that now that your divorce is over, I think you owe it to yourself more than ever to make the most out of the time that you have, cuz one of my favorite sayings is it’s not the time that you put into it, it’s what you put into the time.

Doreen: Absolutely. You know, one of the students asked me a question today and they said, how do you talk to your, cuz these are third year students, they’re gonna be soon employed, hopefully, working for somebody else, or maybe some of them will open up their own, their own law firm.

But the question was basically, how do I tell my new employer that I would like balance, in other words, not to work 10 hour work days. And first I said, well, you wanna make sure that when you’re interviewing, you’re also interviewing the company. Ask the questions you wanna know, when do you expect us to be there?

What time do people generally leave at night? If I get all my work done? And it’s done to your satisfaction or above your satisfaction? Is that acceptable or are you looking for people that are there for certain hours? Will I be required to work weekends? Will I be, will I have days off? What do those look like?

What does the employer think about mental health days? Those types of questions. So I said, just be honest and open with them and have a conversation. And if you don’t feel that it’s a good match and you’re a young aware probably time to move on. So I have, we have incorporated the system where we start our week off with a totally clear and focused mind because the first thing we do, and I do it on Sundays mostly like we said, and so does Jeff, is everything that you think you have to get done, write it down.

Jeff: We’re want to.

Doreen: Right. So it could be, I wanna set, I wanna plan a vacation. I want to visit with a friend. The things that you must do, the things you wanna do, and the things that maybe, you know, you might do. You wanna first list them out, everything. And then when you think you got enough down, go back, look at it, and then add to it again.

And then what’s the next step?

Jeff: Well, I want to go back a little bit about prioritizing because it’s very, very important that you do that.

Doreen: Well, I think you do. But you do that after you do

Jeff: You write out your, just empty your brain right? Onto a piece of paper.

Doreen: Let’s call it an, what do we wanna call it?

Jeff: A mental download.

Doreen: Or you wanna call it that? Or brain dump?

Jeff: Brain dump I think would be a lot of things.

Doreen: That’s true.

Jeff: But a mental download I think, is a little bit more formal. You know, it could be, you know, whether you’re a business owner or an entrepreneur, or like you said, a law student. You have so much on your mind that you have to download that list onto a piece of paper. Then you prioritize everything.

Doreen: And when you download this list, you’re gonna you’re already gonna start to generally, at least most people report back to us. And I know we feel, relief because now you put everything out of your brain and it’s kind of like journaling and you got it down on a piece of paper.

So the next thing you wanna do, and Jeff touched on this, if you wanna prioritize and we like to use four different lists. The first one is a must do. It’s important and it’s urgent. The second one is, should do. It’s important, but it’s not urgent. The third one would like the, like to dos. Not important, but you wanna do it.

And the fourth one is, it’s not really important. I don’t like to do it and I don’t need to do it or, and this is the one I love. You can delegate it.

Jeff: And boy do you.

Doreen: I do delegate. And that’s how I’d get so much done. Yeah. I delegate a lot in my must dos should dos would like to do as well, right? I am great at delegation because I’ve read many books, especially on business.

I just finished another one where it was emphasized about, look, if I charge X amount of dollars as a lawyer, right, and I can hire somebody for Y that’s gonna do a particular task that can do it better than me or equal to my abilities for far less money and I can use my time otherwise then that makes sense.

So when after you dump everything down on your paper. The download. Now you’re gonna prioritize in that way. The next thing is you’re gonna see what can I, what can I scratch off? What do I really don’t wanna do? And it doesn’t make a difference. Just get it off, scratch it off. Right? I like to do it on a piece of paper.

Sometimes people like to use a computer, but I like to see it. And I love, I love the feeling of, I’m gonna make the noise, scratching it off.

Jeff: Yeah, .

Doreen: I dunno if you heard that.

Jeff: You know, and by the way, when, when you talk about delegate and especially in your case as business owner, you could delegate a must do.

You can delegate a should do or so it’s delegate or forget about it. You know, if it’s not important and not urgent, you don’t even, you don’t care about it. So it could be one, one of those two.

Doreen: Right. You can delegate it or you can cross it off, right? Or you can decide that you have to do it. And remember that delegation is not

Jeff: Abdication

Doreen: Correct. Which means?

Jeff: That means you still have to follow through with what you’ve delegated.

Doreen: Correct. And don’t get frustrated with this. I know as professionals and business owners that you delegate a lot of your things. You have teams, and sometimes it’s frustrating. You know, people may not have the same priority in mind that you do, or the way in which you like to do it.

It takes time to build a team and to get them to understand your style, what you want, all that. So be patient with that.

Jeff: You know, I forgot about another D when it says delegate. Also, one thing that I like that you do is you also do with a deadline.

Doreen: Oh, I always put a deadline in. Not always, because I don’t like to use the words always and never.

Maybe we should do an episode on that.

Jeff: I think we should.

Doreen: Yeah. Always and never are not good words.

Jeff: Write it down.

Doreen: No, seriously, because write it down with to-do list because there usually is never an always. Oh my gosh, that was interesting. Never an always. There’s usually not a never or an always, but many times I will require my team to let me know when they’re gonna have things done and I also put it on a calendar.

In other words an Outlook invite or whatever, Google Calendar, whatever you use, I do an invite and I have a time, I just put it right in the middle of my calendar. Maybe it’s a 15 minute block. It’s just so and so owes me this by then, because if not, it’s very hard for me to remember.

Jeff: Right,

Doreen: Right.

Jeff: And speaking of deadlines, that’s kind of what’s next is you need to take each item that you wrote down and decide how much time you’re gonna allot for each item to do.

Doreen: Right, but we haven’t got there yet.

Jeff: Okay.

Doreen: Okay.

Jeff: So where are we?

Doreen: The first thing is we did our download. Then we did the four lists.

The must dos, should dos, would like to do the delegate. Then we decided what we weren’t gonna do or didn’t wanna do and didn’t really have to do.

Jeff: Right.

Doreen: And we crossed it off.

Jeff: Okay.

Doreen: You might wanna listen to my people pleasing episode about that one. Some things you have on your list you really don’t wanna do, and you might be people pleasing just as a side note.

Then you’re gonna delegate. So you’re gonna be left now with a list and list of things that you are going to do. Now, when you are, now, what you’re gonna do is you’re going to take those things and you’re gonna decide how much time it’s going to realistically take you to get that project done.

And you wanna be honest with yourself on that. Don’t give yourself too much time, but don’t give yourself not enough time, right? So if you think something’s gonna take two hours, then put down two hours, put it all down on your piece of paper, okay? The next thing is you’re gonna start to what?

Put it in your calendar. You’re gonna decide, though, before you do that, what is most important. How do you decide that? Well, you probably have to know yourself after the divorce and who you are and what your goals are. So for me, building this business building life after divorce coaching. We are working on a program by the way, that’s gonna launch next year.

So excited. So there are things that I have to do in order to continue to work on that program, right? It’s something that I can only do with you in collaboration because it’s my mindset. It’s my creation with you. And so I have to outline what this program’s gonna look like. Let’s just take that as an example, and I think it’s gonna take me between doing some research, looking at my notes, thinking about it, probably about three hours, and that’s pretty long.

Like I can get a pretty good outline done, probably in two, but I’m gonna give myself three hours. I’m gonna put that now into my calendar. And what I like to do is put down the activities in my calendar that I must get done because there’s a deadline on me. Like, Hey, my marketing company needs me to approve such and such, and they want it by Friday.

Well, that’s gotta go on today, right? Because let’s say today is what Wednesday, and they need it by Friday, so I have to put it on my calendar. Let’s say for tomorrow morning from nine to 10, I’m gonna approve X, Y, Z for marketing because it’s due on Friday. You put those things on first. The next thing I like to do is put the things on that I know are gonna, are going to most reach my goal.

So I have a goal right now of getting in shape and I have a goal right now of gaining muscle. So one of the things I like to put in, is my exercise time. I like to put it in because that way it’s a priority to me, right? And it’s just as important to me as creating the program, being healthy so I can deliver it to all of you in a healthy way and be the best I can be.

So I like to put my exercise time in first, four days a week, one hour shots. I might put it in the morning before I start my day. I might put it on a Friday when I generally don’t have appointments in the middle of the day. I might put it at night, right? And then I like to look at the things that I probably know are going to help me to reach my goal sooner.

Okay. That I probably don’t feel like doing. I know I have to do it, but like for example, maybe I’m gonna create a business or update a business plan for one of my businesses. Really don’t wanna do it. I’ve been kind of procrastinating about it, but it get, it needs to get done. So I know how important it is.

I’ll put some of the things that I don’t wanna do on my calendar. Now, we’ve made this mistake when you’re working on your calendar and you’re putting things on there that aren’t subject to a deadline, you don’t have to put it all on for one week cuz you’re never gonna, you’re gonna overwhelm yourself. You’re not gonna get everything on your to-do list done within a week.

Jeff: Are you talking about me?

Doreen: Right. So it’s okay to put some things on for next week? Yeah. And for the week after or even the month after. And there’s certain things, for example, writing our episodes out, we like to outline our episodes. We have that down every Tuesday. We have our episodes blocked out. We have to write them, we take turns doing it, and then we exchange it with each other.

And then from there it goes to certain people for marketing and for other things that we do with it. Right. So you could put, and you can make that like a reoccurring if you have a business and, and you know, that’s what makes sense for you right now. How does this all play into divorce?

Jeff: Well, I think one thing is that when you are newly divorced life after divorce, you wanna make the most of your time that you can.

And you know, there are some things that may have deterred your focus or your clarity on what you want to get done and time for yourself. And I think that writing it down, helps you to be focused.

Doreen: It does. And we like to suggest in our business world, and again, we both have been through divorces, we know how challenging it can be to grow your business, stay focused on your career, and also go through a divorce.

It’s takes a balancing act, so this absolutely can help. To spread the love, meaning to make sure that you have balance going on in your life. Your business is doing well, you’re getting healthier. After the divorce, you’re spending time, let’s say with your children as a priority cuz they’re into a new, a new visitation schedule.

You know, things like this. Right. So I think it’s really important as a management of yourself.

Jeff: Right. So what do you think is one of the most important things to do after you’ve put everything on your Calendar?

Doreen: Well, I know what it is, but you wanna tell everybody?

Jefff: I’ll tell everybody, throw the paper away.

Doreen: Right. You no longer need the paper because you’ve put everything on your calendar so just throw it away because you’re gonna do the same thing the following week for us every Sunday and the list will change. Things will happen, and maybe things have come off your calendar or you no longer are doing something, and now you can go in, you can clean up your calendar first and then you could now do your new download and see where you are.

Jeff: Yeah. You’re not relying on those papers that disappear or vanish in the thin air like I am. Yeah. Where you’re kind of forced to rely on your calendar.

Doreen: Right.

Jeff: Which is I think a little bit more of an entrepreneurial, professional way of doing things.

Doreen: Absolutely. You’re gonna get a lot more done, and that’s why I was telling the students today as I was presenting, that they can get it all done if they are able to calendar now. But here’s the way they do it, and here’s the way we suggest you do it. When it comes time for me to write my business plan, I already know what’s gonna happen.

The dog is gonna need to go out. I’ve got 10 new emails that just came in. I’m feeling a little hungry.

Jeff: Me too.

Doreen: My head is hurting. There’s a million reasons that my primitive brain is telling me it is absolutely not a good idea from two to five to sit down and write my business plan. But guess what I’m gonna do?

I’m gonna write it anyhow. Honoring your calendar is the key. You put it down there and you must honor it.

Jeff: It’s like a business partner.

Doreen: It’s kind of like, you know, I know that our coach talks about Oprah. I think it was Oprah. If you go and you have lunch set or if you have left lunch set with someone that you admire, somebody that you look up to and you are like so excited about this lunch.

You’re never gonna miss it. You’re gonna be there and you’re probably gonna be there with bells on early and you’re probably gonna be there early and you might even have a gift for this person or maybe thought of something to do or say, or maybe you wanna make some notes, you’re ready for the event.

And what I’m suggesting is that. yourself the same way. You are just as important as this person that you look up to. In fact, I wanna suggest, especially after divorce, that you’re more important to focus on, right?

Jeff: Oh my God, what if we don’t, gosh, use, oh my gosh. What if we don’t use a calendar?

Doreen: What do you mean?

Jeff: Well, what if we don’t use a calendar? There’s gotta be reasons. I want to talk to the listeners about why it’s so important to use a calendar versus just writing it down on a piece of paper.

Doreen: Why is that?

Jeff: Well, when you put it on a calendar, it automatically takes the stress away from you.

Doreen: Yes .Yes. It feels good.

Jeff: You know, it’s that mental download. It feels good. There’s actually three reasons. Well, there’s, I’m sure there’s more than three, but there’s three that we want to talk about of why we you should use a calendar.

Doreen: Okay.

Jeff: Okay. And one is probably just what I talked about it builds a habit of mindfulness to your priorities, so when you’ve written something down on a calendar or typed it on your calendar or however you put it on your calendar, you’re gonna be now more mindful of what you need to get done.

Doreen: Correct. You’ve now committed to yourself that this is something I’m going to do.

Jeff: Absolutely. . What’s number two?

Doreen: Number two is using a calendar to schedule your time is good for your health. Health. You know, we’re all busy and off thin often. The first thing that we, especially again, as business owners and professionals, the first thing that we let slip by the wayside is what?

Jeff: Fitness?

Doreen: A fitness .

Jeff: Time for yourself.

Doreen: Mental health. Right?

Jeff: Mental health as well.

Doreen: For me, I like when I read, I feel really calm. I enjoy mostly entrepreneurship types of materials, but occasionally fiction and I enjoy reading, so I like to put that time down on my calendar. In fact, I do reading in the morning, at least, I would say five to six days a week because we do the Morning Miracle, if anybody’s heard about it, where we spend the first part of our day getting up early and getting our minds ready and bodies ready for the day. And maybe we’ll do an episode about that. But very quickly, it involves journaling, and you could do this for five minutes after meditation, affirmations, journaling.

Jeff: Visualization

Doreen: Visualization of your affirmation and reading, and exercise. And you could do, you know, exercise for us, we both like to work out of the gym, but to get your body going for me in the morning, I just get on the Peloton for sometimes only 10 minutes.

Jeff: What did I do this morning?

Doreen: You washed the car.

Jeff: Washed the car.

Doreen: Because you know what? It’s exercise and it gets your body moving. And you have a clean car today?

Jeff: I did.

Doreen: Which is kind of cool.

Jeff: Until it rained.

Doreen: Oh, that’s right. It rained . Oh well you might have to go clean it again. Right.

Jeff: And number three, you know, I, I put on my calendar, my client’s birthdays, anniversaries, time with my wife.

And I think that really shows people that you care about them. And it, and kind of little bit of selfishness here. It makes me feel good that I make people feel good.

Doreen: It’s true, it’s true. So I, and then we wanna emphasize, I also wanna say, . Sometimes life gets in the way. Sometimes you’re just not feeling well and you don’t wanna go work out or maybe you shouldn’t because maybe you’re sick. Or sometimes,  for me, maybe a hearing or something that I have going on with a client went longer than expected and I have no control over it. Don’t beat yourself up. If you missed something on your calendar or for some reason you, it just escaped, you just reset it for another day..

Don’t beat yourself up. This is an art, it’s a practice. It’s like learning how to meditate, but using a calendar really, and then you will be amazed at what you can get done in your life.

Jeff: Yeah. I use the edit button quite often because a lot of times I, you know, again, I, we spoke earlier that I’m guilty of putting too much onto one day, and I realized I just didn’t get everything done.

You hit the edit button and move it to another day.

Doreen: I also wanna just point out something else is if you have a project or you have something you’re trying to accomplish and you know, you wanna create, I don’t know, let’s say a marketing piece. And you know that you have to first do some research and then you’re going to outline what it looks like, and maybe you’re going to vet it out to several vendors, like there’s steps before the project actually can be concluded.

Break those steps down. We didn’t mention that in the to-do list, but it’s really important to break things down and you can actually put on your calendar to break down things on a particular subject. You could say, Hey, I’m gonna work on Monday from one to 2:00 PM to go ahead and break down the outline on the marketing plan that I wanna incorporate.

Jeff: My Sunday morning down mental download is on my calendar.

Doreen: Yes. So, what else?

Jeff: Well,  I also like the fact that when things are on my calendar, it frees up my creativity, it frees up my ability to get things done and also the quality. of the things that gets done is also a little bit higher up.

Doreen: Oh, it’s much better. Because you’re focused, but you know yourself. You know, I, there’s certain people, for example, that can’t, they have no control or they haven’t learned control, I should say, over their phone when they hear that ping going off or they see the phone light up, or maybe it’s your email they get distracted, so don’t set yourself up for disaster. If that’s you, turn off your notifications or put your phone in the other room for that hour and really focus in. I tell my team that if you see something on my calendar, please don’t interrupt me. At that time, send me a text or an email and I will get back to you or better yet put the meeting that you want to talk to me about on the calendar, right? I also find the emails, especially, you know, running several businesses can be so overwhelming and some people use email programs to help them stay organized. Others have executive assistance that help to, to manage their load of emails, but, you know, sometimes, sometimes picking up the phone and having, or having a Zoom call is going to save you a lot of emails as well.

So that’s just something to pull, to push to, to think about and maybe put out there as an option as well to kind of manage a little bit better. So, oh, what about vacations?

Jeff: You gotta put ’em on the calendar.

Doreen: We did that at the beginning of the year, and we usually do this at the beginning of each year.

We put on where, when we wanna go away. So for example, two weeks in July, we know the first two weeks we’re gonna go to the Carolinas. I’m still gonna, we’re gonna be working, but our kids live up in that area. My daughter’s going to Auburn, Megan, we’re gonna get something up in the mountains, which we already have secured for two weeks to put it on the calendar.

Then we invite all the family members so we know we have this family vacation plan. They can all come whenever they want within that two weeks.

Jeff: Do you remember the first rule?

Doreen: What?

Jeff: As soon as we get back from a vacation, what do we have to do?

Doreen: We schedule the next one.

Jeff: We have the plan, another vacation,

Doreen: But we also have scheduled vacations for the entire year.

Jeff: Correct.

Doreen: Now, that doesn’t mean they’re definitive, like definite, but there are things that we would like to do subject to the cost, subject to our work schedules. But having vacation time and putting it in, it just feels good. And you need it. You need it.

Jeff: Absolutely.

Doreen: You gotta give yourself a rest.

Jeff: And I know you said it earlier, but putting your workouts in there is a very, very important thing.

Doreen: Exactly. Or whatever it is that you do for your, your health,

Jeff: For yourself.

Doreen: All right, my friend.

Jeff: So that’s it.

Doreen: What, what do you think?

Jeff: I think that was a great episode.

Doreen: Yeah, so it, it inspires me because like I said, a lot of people say to me, Doreen, how are you running, you know, three different businesses and all of this?

And you know, I really do manage my time and I try not to also, in addition to what discussed today things that I don’t have to address, I really try not to address. You know, sometimes you’re getting emails and you could look at them or you could consider them, but like solicitations or things that might be good for your business, you know, how you get on these lists that you really don’t wanna be on.

Jeff: You know what else I think is important?

Doreen: I just, I just delete them. I don’t even spend the time unless it’s something I’m really interested in. I’ll push it into a folder for later.

Jeff: Yeah. I think, you know what else I like is the fact that on today’s calendars, at least on our phones, the invite is very important that we communicate with each other whether it’s  planning a dinner or we’re going and out on the boat or whatever it is.

Doreen: We put it on the calendar.

Jeff: Yeah. But I can send it to your calendar as well. So we help each other.

Doreen:  I just accept it.

Jeff: Yeah. But we help each other stay organized with our calendars as well.

Doreen: Right. Like you just accepted a dinner date with one of your clients and his wife.

Jeff: Absolutely.

Doreen: So, I guess, I don’t know if you looked at my calendar or not, but you chose a date and I accepted it and it’s done. And that way we hopefully don’t miss social engagements either.

Jeff: Yeah. Well that’s just as important.

Doreen: All right, everybody, listen. Have an amazing week. Try it out. Let me know what you think.

Let us know what you’re thinking is about this, because again, staying organized anytime, but especially after divorce, when you have so much going on, your brain is having a little bit of, you know, overwhelm and probably needs to have some organization on some levels. This can really help you in so many ways and for you professionals and entrepreneurs.

I like to encourage you to maybe consider speaking to your team members about this, especially those that aren’t good at managing their own to-do list, their business to-do list with you. And there’s some great materials out there. If you want further information on that, you can always reach us at, for example, mine is [email protected].

That’s life after divorce hyphen coaching.com and [email protected].

That’s it. All right. Be kind to yourself. Love yourself, love others. And remember, you can have an amazing life after divorce. Yes, you can. All right, we’ll speak to you next week.

Jeff: Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

You have the vision of what you want your life to look like after divorce, but maybe you just don’t know how to get there. So if you’re ready to take control of your life and want to find out more about our coaching, visit us at lad-coaching.com. That’s L A D as in life after divorce dash coaching.com.

Doreen: Until next time, have an amazing rest of your day. And remember, yes, you can have an amazing life after divorce.